Pinch Runner vs Courtesy Runner and Statsitics

[wildcatsoftball]

Great app! Looking forward to putting it to good use this spring.

My question is in regards to statistics applied to a pinch runner vs. a courtesy runner. In a simulated game, I put in a courtesy runner for a person who had just reached first safely. The courtesy runner subsequently scored. I checked the stat sheet and the courtesy runner was given credit for the run. My understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that a courtesy runner should earn a stat for a base he/she steals, while a run scored would be credited to the person for whom they were running. I suppose this begs the question, "What if he/she steals home?"

If I had used a pinch runner instead of a courtesy runner in the same scenario, then the run would be credited to the pinch runner, because they have officially entered the offensive lineup.

As a side note to this, would it be possible to have a PR and the player's number appear on the scorecard when a pinch runner is used. I noticed a CR and the number of the player did appear when I used a courtesy runner.

Thanks again for a great program.

[FTMSupport]

We will be adding the player number to the scorecard when a PR or CR is used.

Where are you getting the information that the original batter should be getting credit for the run scored in a courtesy runner scenario? If you can give us some web links that support this, we would like to see it. Thank you.

[ixamnis]

Has this issue been resolved? I was trying to research why if I put a courtesy runner in, their number and what base they were inserted at shows up on the scorecard, but if I put a pinch runner in, it does not show up on the score card in the box but just in the line up listing. and that doesn't really show what base they entered the game at.

This last week we had a batter get on first, stole second. tagged on a fly and made it to third but then was replaced by a pinch runner at third base. The play be play shows this but you can't tell on the score card that happened. ( I am running the android version if that makes a difference.)

I have no clue who is supposed to get credit for what in the base running stats of a courtesy runner or pinch runner so I hope those stats are now being produced correctly.

[FTMSupport]

Whoever is running gets the stats for what they do. We have seen people mistakenly say that the person a courtesy runner is in for gets credit for the running stats, but we have seen no evidence that this is the case. The player that is running the bases gets credit for whatever they do (steals, caught stealing, runs scored, etc). There is no difference between a courtesy runner and pinch runner in this regard. The only difference between the two is that a courtesy runner is not replacing the original batter in the starting lineup. A pinch runner does.

We have not changed any notations on the scorecard for a pinch runner, but the stats are correct.

[ixamnis]

Thanks, I was told too that whoever is running whether courtesy or pinch gets credit for what they actually do and not the person they are replacing.

Still I think it would be nice on the scorecard to have a P# show up at the base where the pinch runner enters the game just like C# shows up for the courtesy runner.

[ixamnis]

And I still think it would be nice to see on the scorecard box what base the pinch runner entered the game at.

[pak133]

I used a courtesy runner #22 for #14. #22 stole second but #14 was credited with the steal. 1. Why didn't the courtesy runner get credit for the steal and 2. can I fix this?

[FTMSupport]

If the courtesy runner was put in the game prior to the steal being entered, then the courtesy runner would be credited with the stolen base. If you are not seeing this, please do an Options -> Export and email your customer ID to support@iscoresports.com along with the game, inning, and players involved and we will take a look at your data to see what is going on.