Batter history bug (?)

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Batter history bug (?)

Post by jojolemon » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:52 pm

I noticed something odd this evening as I was scoring a game. Situation: the catcher, batting in the #4 spot, went 3-for-4 through the first 6 innings. He was replaced behind the plate in the top of the 7th. His spot came up again in the bottom of the 7th. The new batter came up and the little "history" part of the screen showed the at-bat history of the starting catcher, ie. 3-for-4 and then the things that happened for the previous batter in that spot. Since it's a new batter, it seems to me that area should either be blank (like it is the first time through the line-up) or show 0-for-0 since the current batter has not had any plate appearances.

Obviously, showing the previous batter's history has no outcome on the stats or score card or anything else, really. It just struck me as odd.
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Re: Batter history bug (?)

Post by FTMSupport » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:21 pm

We just tested this with an offensive substitution, and the new batter correctly showed nothing. We are guessing one of two things happened. Either you did a defensive only substitution (and thus the batter was still the original batter), or you did the substition by going to Misc->Show Starting Lineup instead of clicking the batter and making the substitution that way.

If you look at the offensive stats for the game, is it showing the original catcher and the new catcher's batting statistics correctly? Or is it showing all the at bats as the new person (which would mean the starting lineup was changed)? or all the at bats for the old batter (meaning a defensive only substitution)?

If it is showing correctly in the Game Stats, then the other possibility is that you are running an older version of iScore? On the title screen, does your version say 2.41.67? If not, then you are on an older version, and should be able to go to the Updates section of the App Store to get the latest version.
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Re: Batter history bug (?)

Post by jojolemon » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:50 pm

When the defensive substitution was made, I noted the change to the offensive line-up at the same time. The new (correct) batter showed up automatically when his at-bat came around...but it showed the hitting history for the first catcher.

The offensive stats look correct. Catcher #1 has 4 plate appearances, 4 at-bats, and 3 hits. Catcher #2 has one plate appearance, one at-bat, and no hits.

And, the version number says 2.41.67 on the screen.
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Re: Batter history bug (?)

Post by FTMSupport » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:57 pm

We will have to look into this further. We have not been able to reproduce, but will continue trying. Thank you.
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Re: Batter history bug (?)

Post by jojolemon » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:01 pm

Follow-up. Interestingly, I just looked at the online boxscore, and it does not note the offensive substitution. But, the stats reflect the change. Weird.

Wait. I take that back. The sub shows up as the last batter...instead of after the batter he replaced as I'm used to seeing in boxscores. I hadn't noticed that the iScore boxscores do that. Why don't you have the substitutes show up in the correct order in the boxscores? This question should probably be moved to a new topic but I'm just gonna leave it here.
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Re: Batter history bug (?)

Post by FTMSupport » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:21 pm

We have the box scores showing the original lineup, then batting subs come at the end of the list. The issue is that youth leagues have varying rules that could allow things like a batter batting in two differnet places in the lineup, so to account for all scenarios, we have chosen to put substitute batters at the end of the box score.
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Re: Batter history bug (?)

Post by jojolemon » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:28 pm

FTMSupport wrote:We will have to look into this further. We have not been able to reproduce, but will continue trying. Thank you.
This is the only time I noticed this oddity/bug. I don't necessarily always look at the history. I will try to pay attention and see if I note the problem again in the future.

Thanks for your prompt replies. I'm always amazed at y'all's responsiveness.

And, yes...I am from Texas (re. y'all's).
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Re: Batter history bug (?)

Post by jojolemon » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:10 pm

Saw this bug again today. I remembered to watch for it since I'd seen it before.

Situation: home team batter #5 through the first 7 innings went fly out, walk, walk, walk; batter 6 through the first 7 innings went double, walk, fly out, homerun. At the top of the 8th, batter #6 was replaced defensively and it was announced that the new player would be batting in the 6th spot. I noted both the defensive change and the line-up change at that point. In the 8th, batter #5's history (fly out, walk, walk, walk) showed up when he batted. When new batter #6 (who'd gone in defensively) came up to bat next, the history on the screen showed batter #5's history (ie. fly out, walk, walk, walk).

Like I said, it's not a big deal...all of the stats are correct. But, it does seem to be a repeatable bug. I was wrong, when I first reported this, though...that the displayed history was of the removed batter. It was of the previous batter. So, I'm thinking iScore just didn't erase the previous batter's history from that spot on the screen when it encountered a new batter with no history.
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Re: Batter history bug (?)

Post by jojolemon » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:02 pm

Having paid more attention over the last few games, it's pretty clear that the in-game on-screen history for batters does not get updated correctly if you make the offensive substitution at the same time a defensive substitution takes place. The stats seem to be fine and, like I've said before, it's not a bit deal, but I've seen the bug several times now that I've started paying attention.

FYI.

PS: Congrats on the deal with ESPN.
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Re: Batter history bug (?)

Post by FTMSupport » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:27 pm

Thank you on the congrats.

We are still looking into this issue, and do not have a good/consistent way to reproduce it yet. If anyone has a short number of steps that can reproduce starting with a new game, that would help tremendously. We will continue trying to narrow the issue down and get it fixed ASAP. Thank you.
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