Based Loaded - Third Out on Fielder's Choice

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pcmooney63
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Based Loaded - Third Out on Fielder's Choice

Post by pcmooney63 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:31 pm

I think this might be an enhancement request.

This applies to a situation where the bases are loaded with two outs.

The batter hits the ball to shortstop who flips to third base for the force out. Inning over.

So I hit the "in play" button

For the batter they are SAFE and I push the FIELDER'S CHOICE button.

I record the location of the hit - to the short stop

I record the 6-5 as the players making the outs.

It then asks me - what happened to the runner on third?

The default choice is HOME and SAFE.

Lets ignore what I chose.

Next it asks what happened to the runner on second?

I pick OUT and then FORCE OUT

Here is my beef. The third out has been recorded on a force play. Regardless of what I happened to choose for the runner on third, no run should be scored by the application. So even if I mess up (guess what - I did twice in the same game) and say the runner on third was SAFE at HOME the application should be smart enough to over-rule.

So lets go back to the choices for the runner at third.

The default is SAFE at HOME. Changing the SAFE to OUT is wrong - because no out was recorded at home.

So now I'm thinking SAFE at HOME - seems wrong too!

One correct choice appears to be SAFE at HOME and push the RUN NOT SCORED button. This is not really an obvious choice though. I know now it is correct after playing with the application. At the time I didn't see the button. We've all been there.

Another correct choice appears to be SAFE at THIRD and HELD UP. Again not obvious.

At any rate, I messed up and now my score is wrong. I have an extra run. So I can go to the pitch-by-pitch and fix this right? No I cannot. I could not remove the run, even though I could push the RUN NOT SCORED button in the application it would not subtract the run.

So my two requests are
a) Please do not score any runs when the third out is a force out
b) Allow me to use the RUN NOT SCORED button in the pitch-by-pitch view to fix this.

Thanks!
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Re: Based Loaded - Third Out on Fielder's Choice

Post by FTMSupport » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:35 pm

Yes, RUN NOT SCORED is the way to go.

And YES, you can fix this post game.

Go to Game Manager, select the Game, select Pitch by Pitch, scroll to the play where this occurred and tap it, tap Edit next to the description of the runner on third scoring, and select the "Run Not Scored" option. This will correct it.

If that is not fixing the score for you, then please do an Options -> Export and email us your customer ID (found on Options screen) to support@iscoresports.com with the game / inning / player involved and we will check to see what is going on.
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Re: Based Loaded - Third Out on Fielder's Choice

Post by OhioTex » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:40 pm

i also think the idea of making the default, highlight be "run not scored", when a third out, force out, is keyed first is a smart suggestion..
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Re: Based Loaded - Third Out on Fielder's Choice

Post by FTMSupport » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:22 pm

As soon as the force out is put in, all entry stops. The issue is that what happened to the runner on third is asked first. We would not know that a force out is coming in the future, so defaulting to runner scored with bases loaded is most appropriate.
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Re: Based Loaded - Third Out on Fielder's Choice

Post by OhioTex » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:51 pm

Stand corrected .
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