Double Plays and putouts are not being recorded correctly.

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davidlimbaugh
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Double Plays and putouts are not being recorded correctly.

Post by davidlimbaugh » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:23 am

I noticed that after 42 innings I only had 124 total putouts and 0 DP's. I thought we had turned a double play and I was right. A 5-4-3 DP is on the scorebook as 5-4-3 DP and a 1-4-3 DP but fielding stats so 0 DPs for any of the players involved and first putout of play and second assist of play doesn't seem to be recorded?
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Re: Double Plays and putouts are not being recorded correctly.

Post by FTMSupport » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:49 am

We do handle these situations and correctly record the assists and putouts, so we would have to see your data specifcially to find out what the issue is. If you can export your database, and email us your customer ID (we are pretty sure you've emailed it to us before, but it saves us from having to look through history to get it again) to support@fasterthanmonkeys and a little note saying which game the plays in question were scored in, we can take a look.

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Re: Double Plays and putouts are not being recorded correctly.

Post by davidlimbaugh » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:30 pm

You already have this - I sent this to you as an example of the need to edit the game after it is over to fix a couple of errors being recorded incorrectly. I can send again....

Just sent it - look at Mt Juliet's at bats - we turned a 5-4-3 in the 2nd and a 1-4-3 in the 8th. None of the players involved have any DPs in their game or season fielding stats. And the putout for the second baseman in both plays were not credited to him in game or season stats.
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Re: Double Plays and putouts are not being recorded correctly.

Post by FTMSupport » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:49 pm

Thank you... we sometimes have different people responding in the forum and emails, and can not always correlate the two, but we have your information and will look into the issue.

In general, we try and keep the forums to "general" questions that everyone can benefit from, and use the email support for specific scenarios.

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Re: Double Plays and putouts are not being recorded correctly.

Post by tmccombs » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:14 pm

Any additional information for this? I just had the same situation happen last night, although it was a less complex DP as mentioned above. Situation: Runners on 1st and 2nd. Line drive to SS who throws on to 2nd to force out the lead runner who was off the base. 1st base runner held up. I scored it just like that. Stats show SS with a PO and A and 2B with a PO just like you'd expect except that no DP shows on the stats. I edited the Pitch by Pitch to show that the runner on 2nd was out by DP. Now when I view the stats the SS only has a PO but no A, and the 2B has no PO. So... I went to change it back, but in the pitch by pitch when I selected forced out at 2nd it doesn't ask for anymore detail of the ball handlers. It shows the runner out, but now my stats are still shortchanged? Couple of questions. Why doesn't the edit ask for who handled the ball again? Why can't a DP be assigned automatically when 2 outs are made on the same play sequence (same for TP)?
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Re: Double Plays and putouts are not being recorded correctly.

Post by FTMSupport » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:15 pm

Not all "2 outs on the same sequence" are considered double plays, so we leave it to the scorekeeper to decide. For example, if you have something like runner on first and second, batter hits the ball, to third baseman who steps on the bag, then overthrows first base, a fielder scoops up the ball and throws the batter out on their advance to second, this is 2 outs in a single sequence, but is not a double play. There are any number of similar scenarios.

We would have to see your data to know why the stats are not coming up correctly.

We just tested the scenario entering it like this with a new game:

1. entered two walks to put runners on 1st and 2nd
2. Out, Line Drive, SS-2B, Runner at 2nd Out, Double Play

In the stats, we get:

2nd Baseman: 1 PO, 1DP
Shortstop: 1 PO, 1 Assist, 1DP

This is what we would expect.
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